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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:26 pm 
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I should have known that Sprite would tell me something and be completely lieing through his teeth. :d


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:32 pm 
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Alright, so the Armor Piercing wolf. That could pierce Doctor protection. We need to watch for that.

The way I see it, there's three reasons why Dacid died:
A) We've got an AiBer on the wolf team, and they know that Dacid is a threat.
B) We've got all F2G wolves, and they're taking out the AiBers because we're new and unpredictable.
C) Dacid said he was armor, so they took him out so they didn't have to worry about him later in the game. they had an armor piercer anyway, so why not?

Now, I'm going to start with Option A. I still think Riddle is a townie, since I was right about Dacid. That cuts down on one AiBer, leaving...
Riddle
Traveling Cat
Bubbz
Laughing Man
Obachuka
That would know that Dacid was a threat. I'll cut Traveling Cat and Bubbz out of that, since they were F2Gers from the start, meaning they'd know if an F2Ger was worth taking out first. Of Obachucka and Laughing Man, I can read Laughie better, so I'll cast my first vote for Obachucka this round.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:30 pm 
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Way to save face, Beta, but y'know, the logic behind it make sense. I'd rule TCat and Bubbz out anyway, they haven't really played a game with Dacid, they're just in Dacid's game at the moment. Both of them came from here with Kiks, Sprite, and KMan, so they're actually F2Gers, not AiBers. Also, how can you be sure that wasn't just a random night-kill?

But that explains why my role didn't work right. I think. However, for intensive purposes, let's say that there's a chance for a thief this game and he used it on me. If you want me to Role-claim this early, I will, but I'll need doctor protection for the rest of the game (yes, I'm that important, and that's not talking with an ego).

I'll abstain from voting for now. I wanna see more before I place my vote. Unlike Sprite, I don't try to start a game with a 180.


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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:07 pm 
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Betagold wrote:
The way I see it, there's three reasons why Dacid died:
A) We've got an AiBer on the wolf team, and they know that Dacid is a threat.
B) We've got all F2G wolves, and they're taking out the AiBers because we're new and unpredictable.

Note that both of your options leads to killing an AiBer, despite different situations.
If I were a wolf, and we were all F2G, I would take out an F2G first, since they know us better and can predict us. After that, we can just slowly pick off AiBers.
Although I do believe you are right and I think an AiBer is indeed on the wolf side.

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Now, I'm going to start with Option A. I still think Riddle is a townie, since I was right about Dacid.

You were right about Dacid, but we don't know if your theory was right. We cannot just rule out Riddle.
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That cuts down on one AiBer, leaving...
Riddle
Traveling Cat
Bubbz
Laughing Man
Obachuka
That would know that Dacid was a threat. I'll cut Traveling Cat and Bubbz out of that, since they were F2Gers from the start, meaning they'd know if an F2Ger was worth taking out first. Of Obachucka and Laughing Man, I can read Laughie better, so I'll cast my first vote for Obachucka this round.

Traveling Cat and Bubbz are still viable because although they're originally from F2G, that doesn't mean they will automatically disregard Bro. Since they're from both, they could also find Dacidbro more of a threat than other F2G's.
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Way to save face, Beta, but y'know, the logic behind it make sense. I'd rule TCat and Bubbz out anyway, they haven't really played a game with Dacid, they're just in Dacid's game at the moment. Both of them came from here with Kiks, Sprite, and KMan, so they're actually F2Gers, not AiBers. Also, how can you be sure that wasn't just a random night-kill?


And even though they haven't played a game with Dacid, it doesn't mean they don't realize Dacid is a force to be reckoned with, especially how everyone at AiB goes on about the Big 3. It's not exactly a secret there that Dacid is good.

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But that explains why my role didn't work right. I think. However, for intensive purposes, let's say that there's a chance for a thief this game and he used it on me. If you want me to Role-claim this early, I will, but I'll need doctor protection for the rest of the game (yes, I'm that important, and that's not talking with an ego).

Wait, what explains why your role didn't work? I don't think I caught that.
And Riddle, just like Dacid said, even though you haven't role revealed, by stating you are vulnerable and important, that just automatically makes you more vulnerable. Either you didn't realize that, have plan up your sleeve, trying to get doctor's protection, or bluffing.


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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:26 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Fine. I hate to deliberately do it, but I figure that if I throw it out there for people to trust this early, it'll only make the game that much easier. I need nightly doctor protection though, since it really is that important.

I am Sprite's favorite Bumpty detective, Pennington. I tried to detect Dacid, but the search came up as "inconclusive". While I'd need more testing to find out the exact cause, I have three theories (in exact order of how much I assume these):
1) Dacidbro's role probably prevented him from being detected as well as killed, most likely Sprite's idea of a mindgame.
2) There is a thief out there that blocked me last night, presumably on the wolf team (since Sprite thinks townie thieves are nearly useless until there is just one wolf left).
3) Dacidbro's death prevented me from detecting somebody.

If I can detect anyone else just fine, it's 1. If I get blocked again, it's most likely 2. If I get blocked again and the person dies the next morning, it's most likely three.

So, now that we have that out there....what next?


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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:11 pm 
Hey Ridds, if the wolves could make it through Dacid's armor, then what effect would having doctor protection do for you?


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:58 pm 
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Laughing Man wrote:
Hey Ridds, if the wolves could make it through Dacid's armor, then what effect would having doctor protection do for you?


As I recall, the first time that Sprite introduced an armor-piercing wolf, he had it set up that it would pierce Armor and Nurse protection, but not Doctor. I'd expect something similar here.


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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:48 pm 
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Exactly that. It's probably why the doctor didn't protect Dacid last night because he assumed that there wasn't an armor-piercing role.


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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:25 pm 
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Alright, so here's what we've got.

Things we know:
1) There is an armor piercing wolf.
2) We've lost the armor, which may have stalled them out at some time.

Things we think:
1) There is a thief
2) There is an AiBer on the wolf team.
3) There is a thief, and he may be wolf support.
4) There are two wolves.

Things we don't know:
1) Who the wolves are and if they do have support.
2) Who we're voting out today.

Summarize it well enough?


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:06 pm 
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Tack on that I'm the detective and we're good.

Hrm. Wanna just random vote? It's the only thing we can do now. Lest we get angry narrators (and those are never good).


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:00 pm 
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I don't like random votings, so I'm not voting just yet D;

I will say most of my suspicion so far is on obachucka though. He's saying not to automatically rule people out as innocent, and of course a wolf wouldn't want to rule people out since it narrows it down. But I dont see that as good enough reason to vote him out.

Also bubbz, cat, or riddle (although I'll believe him for now) could be a wolf and killed off dacid to make theirself look innocent. But they could actually be innocent.

Completely unrelated, but my iPods backspace seems to be touchy. It took me like 10 mins on that last paragraph because i deleted the whole thing. Twice. And I tried to type dacid so many times that it added itself to my automatic spell check.
Edit: holycrapwhatapainintheass I just realized I never deleted the paragraph on time but deleted half the first one instead. Fgjchfjgjvuxjv


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 Post subject: Re: Paper Mario-afia - Game Thread
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Riddle- Fairly sure you're telling the truth. Detective.

Traveling Cat, Bubbz, Meepeh, Nemesis: Fairly suspicious as of now, due to inactivity. Maybe trying to fly under the radar?

Laughing Man: A quick, one or two sentence post. Mentions that the Doctor protection might not be enough. My second AiB suspect, but Oba definitely takes the cake right now.

Obachuka- My prime suspect as of now. That last post is him throwing up defenses to our arguments, and while some of them are good defenses, he doesn't offer any sort of other solution.

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You were right about Dacid, but we don't know if your theory was right. We cannot just rule out Riddle.


This is true, but as of right now, you're much sketchier then Riddle, who has stated that he was the detective. I read that in the story, there was someone in the house who should have had a night action but didn't, which matches Riddle's story that his night action was blocked.


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Sorry for not posting here sooner. Had to spend these past few days finishing a final project (take THAT demon!). XD

My suspicion right now is Betagold, because I think you started discussion hoping someone would mention their role. All we had to say last night was that we got our role, so starting with speculation right off the bat seemed unusual.

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Okay, is deadline now.
Whoever doesn't cote by... 2 days, will be modkilled.
And, please bold and put your votes in red, like this:
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:05 pm 
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C'mon Meeps, get a vote out.

Obachuka. Undecided who I'll detect tonight, probably Beta or TCat.


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:08 pm 
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Betagold wrote:
Riddle- Fairly sure you're telling the truth. Detective.

Traveling Cat, Bubbz, Meepeh, Nemesis: Fairly suspicious as of now, due to inactivity. Maybe trying to fly under the radar?

Laughing Man: A quick, one or two sentence post. Mentions that the Doctor protection might not be enough. My second AiB suspect, but Oba definitely takes the cake right now.

Obachuka- My prime suspect as of now. That last post is him throwing up defenses to our arguments, and while some of them are good defenses, he doesn't offer any sort of other solution.

obachuka wrote:
You were right about Dacid, but we don't know if your theory was right. We cannot just rule out Riddle.


This is true, but as of right now, you're much sketchier then Riddle, who has stated that he was the detective. I read that in the story, there was someone in the house who should have had a night action but didn't, which matches Riddle's story that his night action was blocked.

Flying under the radar is an old excuse. I don't remember it working recently. You can go ahead and prove me wrong though, and if you can, it'll help us know more about them.
And you're still going to vote for me, despite you saying that some of my defense was good? I was using logic, and I'm pretty sure that you can see what I spoke is reasonable. So you want a solution out of me, then?
Very well. I choose to vote Betagold. I may seem very offensive, but I've already withheld that vote for a while. Your first post bothered me, already trying to throw things out before everyone even posted yet, right when the game began. After this post as well, I am not at all convinced you're innocent.

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You could have just not voted and comment if you're going to vote abstain. Or just not post at all, no need to post if you don't have anything to say. I know I don't post whenever I want, even with nothing to say.


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Betagold: Oba
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2 Beta, 2 Oba, 1 abstain, 1 Sprite, 4 non-responsive.

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I'll vote Obachuka

There's not much to base it on though. What he did say did have a point, so it's kinda hypocritical of me. But he's the one I have most suspicion on at the moment, so I'm going with him. =/


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I'm here. I apologize for not being able to post. I have been getting nailed with homework and lacrosse for this past week.

I'm not going to place my vote yet because both obachuka and betagold have approximately enough aroused suspicion upon them. I am going to wait until one of them slips up and we can pin them with evidence before I place a vote.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:47 pm 
I'm gonna vote for Travelling Cat. She's voting for Beta for providing genuinely good reasons to lynch Oba. Not saying I'm not looking at Oba too, but he's made a good defense for himself.


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I was talking about this, Laughing:
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Scored a Pm, so I'm in.

Alright, so...Ten people, that's 2-3 wolves, and I'm tempted to think 2. Wondering if there's any wolf support is a null point right now, but it'll stay in the back of my mind. My gut says Riddle and Dacid are townies, since they're not quite the tour de force here that they were at AIB when they couldn't be on the same team together.


Not this. lol
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Alright, so the Armor Piercing wolf. That could pierce Doctor protection. We need to watch for that.

The way I see it, there's three reasons why Dacid died:
A) We've got an AiBer on the wolf team, and they know that Dacid is a threat.
B) We've got all F2G wolves, and they're taking out the AiBers because we're new and unpredictable.
C) Dacid said he was armor, so they took him out so they didn't have to worry about him later in the game. they had an armor piercer anyway, so why not?

Now, I'm going to start with Option A. I still think Riddle is a townie, since I was right about Dacid. That cuts down on one AiBer, leaving...
Riddle
Traveling Cat
Bubbz
Laughing Man
Obachuka
That would know that Dacid was a threat. I'll cut Traveling Cat and Bubbz out of that, since they were F2Gers from the start, meaning they'd know if an F2Ger was worth taking out first. Of Obachucka and Laughing Man, I can read Laughie better, so I'll cast my first vote for Obachucka this round.

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Hey. Oba. I nailed TBG for flying under the radar in WWX (or, well, tried to incriminate him for it) and he was a Corruption. Wanna say it hasn't worked recently again? The only one we can't use it on is Kuru, since he always does it.

I find it random that Laughie is voting on Traveling Cat, too. Instead of following a bandwagon, he chooses to vote TCat. While I haven't known Laughie to follow a bandwagon, is it possibly that he's a wolf trying to make himself look innocent? If he isn't, just as a note, I think this to anyone who doesn't conform on the first day. In this case, it's a bit of an exception, since there is already a lot to work with, considering the small amount of players.


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:29 pm 
I don't find it a random vote on Tcat. Beta's got some good reason's on voting for Oba, but it's nothing so substantial that I would follow a vote on. Especially when he's picking him over being able to read me. I've only played 2 games with Veta, one of which he died first night (WW9.875), the other (WWX) he stopped following after day one. Obachuka's also made some good points, and a defense suitable to respond to Beta.

I'm never one to follow a bandwagon. I don't vote until I find a good reason to do so. I don't flag down every other post that contains the slightest hint which is usually just pulled out of context to fit an argument.

Also, TCat-I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about with Beta's first post.


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